Know Your Lore: The Infinite Dragonflight

They're not called that because they're fat. Because they're not fat. Sure, they seem to be blistering out of their skin but that's glandular. Too many chronotons. (If you thought we were going to go an entire KYL about dragons who want to alter the fabric of time and space and not once mention Futurama, well, you were wrong, Mister I'm my own grandpa. Now let's steal the dish and go home.)
The Infinite Dragonflight are a conundrum. In many ways, they're the opposite number of the Bronze Dragonflight, with an agenda wholly opposed to that of the stewards of time. Where the Bronze seem to shepherd time along its normal flow and prevent strange incursions, the Infinites are all about strange incursions. Strange incursions that seem to be aiming at nothing more and nothing less than the total destruction of the established history of Azeroth proper and the creation of a wholly new order.

What does Aeonus mean by this statement? He makes it while attempting to kill Medivh (or at least disrupt the Guardian's concentration while he breaches the Twisting Nether and creates the Dark Portal in the Black Morass... it's unlikely that Aeonus could actually prevail in direct combat with the Guardian of Tirisfal even if he wasn't possessed at the time by Sargeras) and prevent the orcs from stepping into a new world, leading to the events of the First War. Is this act intended to free everyone from the hourglass and its constraints, or merely the Infinites? I went back and killed a lot of them in the Black Morass for this post, but didn't seem to find an answer. (Took lots of pictures, though.)

- We don't know when, exactly, they exist. Since they travel through time to alter history and we have no idea where/when their home base is, they could be from the distant past (one of those 'other dragonflights' that existed before the Titans made the five aspects from Galakrond) or from the future, or an alternate timeline or timelines (perhaps created when a dragon, an elf and an orc went back in time and totally messed with the lore...er, I mean changed history).
- We don't know who they ultimately answer to. We know that when Epoch Hunter dies after you prevent him from killing Thrall in the past as he escapes from Durnholde, the drake says "the master will not be pleased" but who the master is, we don't know. There's lots of theories but not many facts at present. Are they related to the time storm that trapped Nozdormu in the novel series related to the War of the Ancients? Or do they have a more straightforward and sinister relationship to the Aspect of Time?
- We don't know what their ultimate goals are. We know that they travel through time to key points in history (the escape from Durnholde Keep, the opening of the Dark Portal, the culling of the citizens of Stratholme) and that they were attempting to alter the events at Mount Hyjal in some fashion (forcing Soridormi of the Bronze Flight to breach a barrier and send agents to ensure time's correct flow) and we know that they're locked in what appears to be a kind of time-shifting combat at the Bronze Dragonshrine, but what we don't know is why. Sometimes they make comments that seem to indicate that they believe that they're after some kind of greater good, but at others they just seem blatantly malicious.
- We don't know how they come to be. We know that there is at least one case of a member of this flight (the Infinite Corruptor) attacking a member of the Bronze in a way that seems to indicate at least some of the Infinites are or were members of the Bronze Dragonflight who were changed either willingly or against their will. How this process functions (it seems to take at least 25 uninterrupted minutes to accomplish it) and what it really even does (does it kill the original and make an Infinite in its place, warp it in a manner similar to fel corruption, compel obedience, brainwash?) is as yet unknown, as is whether or not this is the only means to making an Infinite.
Each incursion by the Infinite Dragonflight seems aimed at either preventing the existence of the Horde or of the Burning Legion's most recent invasion of Azeroth. If Medivh does not open the Dark Portal, there is no First War, as the orcish tools of Kil'jaeden would have died on their diseased husk of a planet without the portals to escape through. No Alliance Expedition, no Ner'zhul recklessly opening portals, no Netherwing, no destruction of Draenor, no escape of the Exodar, no Draenei on Azeroth, no Lich King, and nothing to point Kil'Jaeden to the world his 'master' (it's fairly clear that neither Archimonde nor Kil'jaeden feel a terribly strong loyalty to Sargeras) lay trapped on.
In addition to attempting to stop this event, they also attack other key points in time that would have accomplished some of these aims. By trying to prevent Thrall from rising to leadership of the Horde, they would remove the New Horde from the events of history - no death of Cenarius, no Hellscream's redemption against Mannoroth, no Horde presence on Mount Hyjal at all. Meanwhile, by killing Arthas (or at least preventing him from finding the tainted grain in Stratholme and launching his purge of the city) they would prevent the rise of one of the Legion's most effective servants, as it was wholly via the actions of this death knight that the lick Kel'Thuzad returned from death to summon Archimonde to Azeroth. But we can clearly see that their primary goal was merely to prevent the culling of the city. Why is this? What would they have to gain from the city falling to the plague before Arthas could kill the inhabitants? They went with their backup plan of outright killing Arthas before he could reach Mal'Ganis only after their initial plan to delay Arthas' awareness of the tainted grain was foiled by Chromie of the Bronze Dragonflight and her allies.
(Editor's note: I made a mistake here and said Chromie was in the Infinite Dragonflight, and not the Bronze. Several people caught the error in the comments..)
So look at the basic events as they would have unfolded: if the Infinites had successfully either slain or kept Thrall enslaves, then the soldiers of Lordaeron who were out looking for him and his Horde post-Durnholde would have been free for other duties. Northern Lordaeron would have had its usual defenses, meaning that roaming paladins like Uther and Arthas wouldn't have been forced to deal with situations like the orcs attacking Strahnbad. Furthermore, with the forces of Lordaeron not divided and Arthas and Uther working together to contain the plagued inhabitants of Stratholme (who would have had time to fully turn if Arthas had not discovered the tainted grain there as quickly as he did in established history) then there would have been no reason not to burn the city and no one would have objected, and Arthas would have had the full assistance of Uther and Jaina against Mal'Ganis there. We know, too, that Chromie sensed temporal incursions at Andorhal years later, incursions she blamed on the Scourge at that time. Since the Scourge has shown no further ability to travel in time, and since we clearly have sizable evidence of Infinite interest in the fall of Lordaeron, we can dismiss the Scourge and focus on the Infinites.
In every case where they take an active interest (despite their being evidence of their interference with the battle of Mount Hyjal, once you travel to that battle through time you see not a sight of them) they're attempting to prevent either the Legion or its major tools of conquest, the Old Horde/Scourge, from reaching Azeroth. Failing that, they seek to minimize their effectiveness. How will this 'shatter this clockwork universe' exactly?

We know the Old Gods can manipulate time, and that Nozdormu can check their influence. We know that we've seen at least one example of a temporal incursion into the past that was successful, when a Dragon, a wizard and an orc went back in time and, while preserving the rough outlines of the War of the Ancients utterly changed their particulars (an orc on Azeroth before the Sundering who injured Sargeras himself?) and it was, supposedly, Nozdormu who caused it by sending them back in the first place. We are led to consider the following possible scenario for what is happening. What if the Old Gods tricked Nozdormu into changing history?
Imagine that the 'time storm' that ensnared Nozdormu and forced him to send back three agents to prevent tampering with the past (which they do in broad strokes... the Legion is defeated, the Sundering happens... but in a great many particulars the events of the War of the Ancients with Krasus, Rhonin and Broxigar involved barely resemble those we hear about in the WCIII manual) was created by Nozdormu sending them back in the first place. A new timeline is created that mostly resembles the old, and the World of Warcraft that we as players would recognize is that timeline. As a result, 'our' timeline's Nozdormu doesn't have to send anyone back in time since it was the Nozdormu of that previous timeline that sent them back. That Nozdormu, Aspect of Time charged with guarding and securing the flow of history, has instead deliberately and willfully sent agents back in time and altered history.
What happens when the Aspect of Time changes time's flow? What happens to a Dragonflight dedicated to preserving history that perverts it? Are they corrupted? We can postulate that it is the Nozdormu of the original timeline who seeks to prevent himself from having ever sent back a human, dragon and orc and thus changing history by taking various actions aimed at preventing those people from either existing or being in a place to assist him. No First War because the orcs never come to Azeroth? No Broxigar to send back to become the only mortal to ever wound Sargeras. No need for Rhonin to free Alexstrasza from Grim Batol, no need for the Aspects to regain their power from the Demon Soul, no need for Krasus to reveal himself to the mage at all. If you can stop any of the wars... First, Second or Third... you stand a chance of preventing Broxigar from having the drive necessary to make the attack on Sargeras at all, in fact.
Imagine the Infinite Dragonflight as a perversion of the Bronzes and their goal, created by an Aspect's mistake. (We know they can make them, now, as we've seen with Malygos.) However, since we're dealing with time and time travel, it's possible that Nozdormu doesn't even know it happened, since it didn't actually happen to the 'him' we would know. He and his Bronzes may in fact be under attack by what is, essentially, the original timeline trying desperately to prevent itself from being overwritten with the only means at its disposal, attempting to shatter the clockwork universe rather than being ground up by its gears.
In the end, however, what we know about the Infinites is their actions. They attack time, they corrupt Bronze dragons, and they cloak a ruthless willingness to destroy the past with honeyed words of a better future. All else is speculation.
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Reader Comments (Page 4 of 5)
Kj Mar 24th 2010 9:48PM
What if...
.... instead of Nozdormu going insane, he is being controlled by someone else? Let me explain. If you have done the seasonal quest where you take the blood elf orphan to the Caverns of Time, you remember what happens as soon as you summon her there. The Bronze Dragonflight guards make a move to attack her when they are suddenly stopped and told that she is not an enemy of the dragonflight "yet". At the end of the quest she also says that she will have a dragon of her own someday. Then she joins the blood elves' Blood Knights to start her training in the paladin arts.
What if the reason she becomes an enemy of the Bronze Dragonflight is because she controls Nozdormu at some point in the future? What if she is the "master" behind the master, who commands Nozdormu to change the timeline so as to prevent the past events of the current timeline that caused the death of her parents? Or maybe her motive is something not so selfish, but more "altruistic" like preventing the catastrophic events caused by the first, second and third war, the rise of the Lich King, the cataclysmic events on Azeroth caused by Deathwing, etc.
Maybe the reason why Nozdormu left the Bronze Dragonflight is because he knew this would happen. So, instead of exposing the whole Bronze Dragonflight to his (actually hers) influence, he went on his own. This way, the Bronze Dragonflight would be the only faction with the power over the timelines (besides the Infinte) uncorrupted so they could at least fight back.
EasyAnswer Mar 24th 2010 10:28PM
Adding on to this, I believe that the blood elf orphan is actually one of Rhonin and Vereesa Windrunner's child because Nozdormu give the children the bronze dragonflight's friendship. The reason why the child might be the one controlling the Infinite Dragonflight is that children are innocent and don't really understand pain and suffering, so she might be trying to help others, when she is actually causing more harm, but not really seeing it. Or the child could be trying to save her parent and whatnot.
Mortuus Mar 24th 2010 10:24PM
Deep. Really deep. My brain hurts.
I think this was the best aspect article yet, though. Stellar job.
However...
(line 28) when a dragon, a *CERTAIN RED-HAIRED WIZARD* and an orc went back in time and totally messed with the lore...er, I mean changed history).
Fixed.
Also, do you think it is possible that maybe the infinite dragonflight is a product of both bronze and green dragonflight members with corrupted agendas, possibly under the influence of the Old Gods? It appears that the infinites are trying to alter events that would get rid of most, if not all, of Azeroth's major events. Without these events, nothing would have changed past the well of eternity.
Now then, what does the Emerald Dream look like? That's right: Untouched Azeroth.
It's possible that the Old Gods may have attracted the attention of some of the green dragons, who, as we know, are combating a "nightmare" in the Emerald Dream. They may have presented the idea to the greens that the situation in the Emerald Dream is all but hopeless, but they could still try to revert the Waking World. So, they simply paired these converted greens with bronzes they have also converted, and viola, infinites.
This would be another way to explain why the Infinites are attacking such critical moments in history. With Azeroth reborn without the legion, orcs, draenei, anything past the original Azerothian races, it would be as close to the Emerald dream as the greens can fathom without having to lose countless of their number to the battle against nightmare. And, of course, it would be very easy for the Old Gods to just sweep in and wipe everything clean, remaking the world in their image.
Of course, this is only a theory, and WoW is still just a game.
Until next time,
Mortuus
emperorshishire Mar 25th 2010 12:28AM
This is gonna hurt a little bit, so I'm gonna try and keep it as painless as possible for those of you who don't really feel like obtaining some kind of a degree in theoretical physics/theoretical astronomy/etc.
To start, we don't know what kind of world Azeroth is in relation to time. There are multiple variations, with varying degrees of "OH MY GOD MY BRAIN IS MELTING".
1. First, we have the standard single timeline, self-editing. This type of universe has a single correct time line. Any attempt to alter time already happened. Its effects are already known, and as such, is highly susceptible to paradoxes. This is the kind of situation where killing your own grandfather can get you erased out of history for causing unresolvable problems.
2. Next, we have the single timeline, non-editing. This one behaves weirdly when thinking about the time itself, but tends to make more sense on the surface. In this timeline, events which change the past overwrite history. Killing your grandfather here will prevent you from being born, but that won't effect the you in the past (doing the killing).
3. Thirdly, we've got the splitting multiverse scenario. In this "universe", every decision causes a split in the timeline; eventually you have billions upon billions of different universes, each minor permutations of the next. Traveling back in time here actually creates a separate timeline "tree", which can (theoretically at least) cause interfere with the original timeline. Killing your grandfather in this timeline is likely to result in gargoyles, demon bugs, and possibly the destruction of the multi-verse as a whole.
4. Lastly, we've got the concurrent multiverse theory. This one says that all possible universes exist simultaneously, and right next to one another. Furthermore, all possible times in all these universes exist at the same time. Think of this like a funny kind of train track. It's possible to jump the track, effectively moving from one time and/or universe to another. For those of you who have read the *book* Timeline by Michael Crichton, this is the kind of timeline implemented there (movie-goers of the same titled story should see the first type of universe). Killing your grandfather in this timeline has no consequences (other than possibly being arrested for murder), as it's not actually *your* grandfather, just the grandfather of another person who would be identical to you in their universe.
To sum up, we don't know which of the four types of timeline (or many others which I haven't described here) Azeroth follows, and to be perfectly honest, I don't think it follows any of them. Knaak, and other writers, have a habit of leaving the actual details of time travel out of the book, probably because it hurts their heads too. To quote Dr. Who, it's "more like a ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey... stuff". Also, most writers create inconsistent timelines, which if closely examined, don't hold up in any type of universe. Suffice it to say, time-travel as a plot device creates far more problems than it solves.
I'm hoping Blizzard comes out and says that Azeroth follows style four, as that makes for the least headaches for all concerned. It also allows them to have some fun playing with two conflicting Bronze Dragonflights, of different timelines, possibly creating the infinites (as a second set of bronze dragons who are unrecognizable as such (as Matthew Rossi hinted at, and a previous poster fleshed out better)).
Izaach Mar 25th 2010 1:34AM
Can the next KYL be the Earthen Ring? Pretty please. \o/
mark_butler Mar 25th 2010 4:41AM
I think the real reason why there is an infinite flight is because Nozdormu tried to divide by zero
Leviathen Mar 25th 2010 5:24AM
Well we could consider that Nozdormu created the infinite dragonflight to attempt to prevent his death because it was originally supposed to be part of the timeline of azeroth. So he's not selfishly trying to save himself he is doing what he saw in time that he was supposed to do and that it would eventually bring about his death by players to stop him. Kinda confusing but it made sense when I thought about it.
Deathknighty Mar 25th 2010 2:17PM
That's what I have always thought. He is so dedicated to the preservation of his timeline (and if you ask around at the Caverns of Time you'll hear about how ANY meddling, even just a wizard having a laugh, will be rooted out and prevented/undone), as are the rest of his flight, he knows how he's going to die. He's knows that it'll incorporate any attempts of prevention he makes.
So what I think is that he forsaw that eventually he'd create the Infinite Dragonflight, and that he'd then get killed by us. But it wouldn't be the "ZOMG let's go CRAAAZY ROFLCOPTER!" cliche people are worried about becoming prevalent. He'd be completely sane. He creates it, because he knows that's what will happen. He sends Infinites back (Or even forward, he could have been orchestrating this for millenia) to try and alter the timeline (knowing they'll fail), because he knew that's how it'd be. He'd fight us willingly in the final confrontation, because it was always meant to happen that way. He'd kill me without a flinch when I pull aggro, because he always knew that he'd do it.
You cannot surprise him. He cannot go insane. He is physically incapable of it. If he were to wipe out all life on Azeroth, he'd be doing his duty, because that's how it was going to be. His plans can't fail, because he knows what will happen. It's actually a little sad, because he doesn't really have any free will, other than to preserve the timeline.
Krem Mar 25th 2010 6:17AM
How to fix it when Broxicar and Friends went to the past-- The same way the Bronze do when we do. They change the memories of people, so that they think what should have happened happened. Although it's large-scale here, sure. But it's a fix.
I just don't see anyone comming up with this idea. Either nobody thought of it, and I'm awesome, or it has been "proven wrong", and I look like an idiot.
Deathknighty Mar 25th 2010 2:18PM
Thrall @ Saurfang:
"Dude, where's your brother?"
There's your complication.
Drork Mar 25th 2010 6:53AM
I cant believe someone has not piped in yet with the statement each of the actions of the Infinites are made to attack a failing of Sargeras. Each of his failed attempts to mess with Azeroth make those living there stronger and more able to defend against him.
It is stated that the titens created the aspects how ever no one ever says which titen did it. Who is to say it wasnt Sargeras himself who created the aspects. A being that thinks of themselves as creator of order would not know to ward the aspects against corruption that is effecting themselves. Sargeras has seen himself fail a few times what would stop him if he know how from creating another dragon flight on another world to fix his own mistakes with time travel.
In CoT it is mentioned that with out the events that strengthen the world it would not be ready for other events. So in short infinite flight is Sargeras fail safe or end game plan.
Turbo_ski Mar 25th 2010 7:48AM
I personally think Nozdormu tried to change time at the moment of his death and the action caused himself and his flight to fall into an infinite time loop in the timeline corrupting them. If they could successfully change time to prevent Nozdormu's death they would free themselves from the corruption, of course their motive leads me to believe Nozdormu's death is related to the burning legion.
LilBanshee Mar 25th 2010 8:30AM
Matt, are you going to do an article about the chromatic dragonflight?
Also, you did the plagued dragonflight, but what about the ones that are fully undead: Emberwyrms, Magmawyrms, Frostwyrms, and Fel Dragons?
CN Mar 25th 2010 8:38AM
Could it be they are trying to fight the meddling of the Old Gods? They are fighting for a 'ultimate' good at no costs? Blizzard has done pretty good about adding twists to their story lines. Isn't the timeline now the story is in an altered timeline? Maybe they are trying to fix it?
Endario Mar 25th 2010 9:03AM
So you're saying that the purpose of the Infinite Dragonflight is to stop Richard Knaak from ever having penned his time travelling extravaganza?
If that's the case, count me in! Let's do the timewarp again and shatter this clockwork universe!
Blayze Mar 25th 2010 9:41AM
(unless this does involve Malfurion and he's destined to cause Azeroth some big big hurt)
Well, this is Malfurion. Detonating ancient stores of magic is kind of what he does (The Sundering, the World Tree...).
Besides, we've *already* altered time for an agent of the Bronze Flight before. Remember Darrowshire? We did that for Chromie -- and we all know how Blizzard likes their corruption plot device. Alter the past once to preserve a man's reputation... then you start thinking 'Why should this person die?'...
...then you start thinking 'Why should *I* die?' Give it time -- and the Bronzes have lots of time -- and then...
MasterAsh Mar 25th 2010 10:22AM
As Dave of Bob and George used to say:
"I hate time travel."
Jim Whatshisname Mar 25th 2010 12:08PM
I love all these comments with different theories.
The most important question seems to be, what is the common thread of all the CoT instances? What is the purpose of the Infinites attacks? It seems to me that they are all attempts to prevent us "Heroes of Azeroth" from becoming more powerful.
If Thrall doesn't escape then the new horde won't exist and half of the heroes are basically gone right off the bat. At the same time the Alliance would be at peace and become complacent and weak over time.
If the dark portal isn't opened then that would lead to the same thing. No horde just small numbers of weak Tauren and Trolls, and a weak Alliance. It would also prevent heroes from traveling to Outland later on to battle all sorts of powerful enemies, becoming much stronger and better equipped in the process.
Preventing Arthas from culling Stratholme would allow the scourge to kill even more of the Alliance but more importantly it would prevent the Lich King from attaining his full power which means us heroes wouldn't need to travel to Northrend to fight him and his armies (and many other powerful beings), something that in the end makes us far more powerful and better equipped, yet again. When they fail to stop Arthas they simply try to kill him, to achieve the same result.
Hyjal is their last ditch effort. If they can't weaken us through surgical strikes in the past then they will simply have to kill us all by somehow tipping the scales in the battle for Mount Hyjal. If Archimonde and the Legion is not defeated in this battle then they will be unstoppable and simply exterminate everyone who is left.
So why are the Infinites trying to weaken us? Most likely to prevent us from killing their Master. The obvious suspect is of course Nozdormu since he knows about his own death. It could potentially be Deathwing who is behind the Infinites, another of his experimental dragonflights. However Deathwing will almost certainly be killed in the next expansion so there's not much time left for him to create them, unless he's already done it in secret.
If I was a betting man I'd put my money on Nozdormu being the leader and creator of the Infinite dragonflight as an (unsuccessful) attempt to prevent his own death at our hands. Why he would do it is hard to speculate on, we have no idea what has happened or will happen to him, it could be simple self-preservation taking over as he gets closer to his death or it could be something else.
A lot of people in these comments seem to think Nozdormu and the Bronze dragons are pretty much omniscient, knowing everything that has happened and will ever happen til the end of time. There is nothing to suggest that this is true, on the contrary it seems that their knowledge of future events is quite limited. They can see certain things and predict the effects of certain events but that's all. Their ability to travel in time is likely also quite limited. Nozdormu was shown his own death but he probably doesn't know all the surrounding circumstances. It wouldn't surprise me at all if near the end he realizes the necessity of his own demise and indirectly help us to destory him, much like Vaelastrasz.
It's fun to think about what a battle against someone who can control time would be like. A fight where the different phases won't necessarily occur in chronological order, a fight where the combatants might be sent to various points in time to battle his minions. Or perhaps we will need to somehow follow the wounded boss fleeing through time, Chromie and her friends aiding us against their former leader. The possibilities are endless.
Sharda Mar 25th 2010 3:44PM
The Infinite Dragonflight could be perfect examples of villains with benevolent goals - who we would otherwise get along famously with - instead turned into our antagonists due to their methods.
A thought. With all the messing about with time, Blizzard could easily point to the struggles between the Infinite and Bronze dragonflights as the reason why some of the old lore doesn't match up with the current. We could be existing in an alternate timeline.
In that case, it's not a wizard who did it, it's dragons. it's always been dragons. And it will always be dragons. ;)
Gray Detrick Apr 30th 2010 7:30PM
I don't have any answers, but I would like to posit the question:
What would happen to any Bronze dragons traveling very far into the past, to a time before the Titans ordered the world, and the Old Gods were the dominant force on the planet?